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Kevin Suggests…okay Kevin gripes (sorry Greg) and then suggests.

Submitted by Kevin Malcolm on March 4, 2010 – 7:25 amView Comments

We got an email from a viewer yesterday who has just recently gotten into the X-men via Joss Whedon’s pretty durn incredible Astonishing X-men run and who wanted suggestions for other quality X-men stories (as well as more stories that had Emma Frost in them).

The problem with that request is that there really aren’t too many quality X-men stories over the years.  The Merry Marvel Mutant’s (yes I am channeling Stan the Man right now) history is full of missteps, retcons and just plain bad ideas that then a new creative team is brought in to fix with more retcons that lead to more missteps and bad ideas.

Some may say that the Claremont era from ’78 to 91 marked a high point of the title with storylines like The Dark Phoenix Saga and Days of Future Past and I certainly can’t dispute the influence of those stories.  However I will dispute how ‘good’ they were, at least to me upon revisiting them recently.  I was disappointed in how clunky the storytelling was and how much that led to me not caring about characters I’ve known for years and years.

***As an aside I will point out that anyone who has watched the ‘cast for a while or just knows me that I am a fan of old comics and the charm/insanity of stories told in the 60s and 70s so its not that these stories are ‘old’ or told in the way that they told comic stories back then that bothers me. ***

The 1990s-2001 were a virtual cornucopia of awful, awful X-men stories with the notable exceptions of the Age of Apocolypse ‘elseworlds’ tale, The first 25 issues or so of Generation X (this is where Emma Frost got to really star as a non-villian first) and the original Exiles series (before Claremont came on it).

In 2001 (and here’s where the suggestion comes in!), due to a successful X-men movie, the folks at Marvel, probably drunk on all the failure of the previous 10 years of X-men decided to take a chance and let Grant Morrison basically inject more creativity and fun into the X-men universe since their creation by Lee/Kirby.  With collaborator Frank Quietly the two told some amazing interesting, new X-men stories that, I think, are so far standing the test of time.

So after 6 paragraphs about a simple question-Farine, pick up the first volume or two of Grant Morrison’s New X-men and let me know what you think.  It starts with a bang AND features Emma Frost quite prominently.

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  • Wolver-Pete

    Now you all know how much I hate to disagree and cause a ruckus or some such but, I actually would recommend a Chris Claremont X-Men story to start. It's a stand alone trade called God Loves, Man Kills. Originally released in '82, it is one of the most clear-cut examples of X-Men comics using mutant relations as a metaphor for race relations (totally just stole that line from the Wikipedia page but it's pretty darn accurate). In fact there are quite a few plot points that ended up in the first & second X-Men movies and the 3rd movie could have been a whole lot better if they had bothered to try and mine the same territory. Oh, and if they had never ever ever allowed Brett Ratner to touch it.

    Beyond picking up X-Men: God Loves, Man Kills… I'd take a look at the X-Factor line (several trades… including the Essential X-Factor are available on Amazon rather cheaply right now) . Came out in '86, and based around the regrouping of the original X-Men (Angel, Beast, Cyclops, Jean Grey, & Iceman) who initially focus on posing as mutant hunters in order to try help other mutants but unfortunately at the same time ends up validating the public's distrust of mutant-kind. Not surprisingly there is confusion about their intent, feelings get hurt, stuff gets blown up, and the Dark Phoenix saga does get introduced (in a good way, not in the lame way that the 3rd movie clumsily threw it in… again, I say suck it Ratner!) as well as Angel becomes Archangel, and so much more.

    For me, those two suggestions really sum up what the X-Men were all about and showcase them quite well. Hopefully this helps somewhat in deciding what to pick up. Curious to know your thoughts if/when you do.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Malcolm/1292981790 Kevin Malcolm

    To be fair I’ve never *really* liked the X-men all that much and recently I’ve liked Claremont & Byrne even less so my opinions on their work may be just a tad skewed.
    The reason I liked Morrison’s run is that he was brutal & set up some damn fine villains for the X-men to face while also introducing a bunch of new mutants (not to be confused with THE New Mutants) who had powers that weren’t all that desirable. Because lets face it, being a beautiful red-head who can move tanks with her mind as easily as she can pick up a piece of lint off the floor with her fingers is not that much of a burden to bear. But when your body becomes a gelatinous see-through blob and that’s the *only* special ability you get, yeah you’ve got some problems fitting in.

  • Jonathan

    The latest Matt Fraction stuff is pretty good. Feels like he's really hitting his stride with the whole Utopia storyline. And Mike Carey's X-men Legacy made Professor X interesting for the first time in years. Not wild about Carey's Rogue stuff, but then I've never loved that character.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Malcolm/1292981790 Kevin Malcolm

    I've not given Fraction's stuff a try but based on how much I like his other runs I probably should, I just have a hard time pulling the trigger on that entire universe right now.
    For the record I too could never stand Rogue (or Gambit and Psylocke for that matter) either.
    I guess I should head to the comic shop tonight and get myself informed. Thanks Jonathan!

  • Jonathan

    If you've never liked Claremont, you might not like Fractions run. He has done a nice job of blending Claremont style with Morrison themes… which might sound odd, but I think that's why I've liked it. I really hope he does something good with the Second Coming arc. I'm hoping Fraction finally redefines them his own way after it (which I'm hopeful for from the latest teaser image: http://www.newsarama.com/comics/X-Men-Teaser-10...).

  • Jonathan

    Sorry, now I'm on a role. If you want a reliably great X-men action comic, though, Kyle and Yost's X-Force has been fantastic.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Malcolm/1292981790 Kevin Malcolm

    Jonathon, I've been loving Peter David's X-Factor but that book is kind of the red headed step child of the X-Universe. :)
    I'll see if I can pick up some X-Factor books for cheap at Emerald City this year. Thanks!

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